#082 – Transforming Human Resource: From progress to Measurable Outcome (with Dave Ulrich)
In this episode of the Working Well Podcast, Tim Borys sits down with Dave Ulrich, one of the world’s most influential thinkers on leadership and human resources, to explore what it really means to create value at work.
Dave challenges the idea that HR exists to run programs or manage policies, arguing instead that its true purpose is to deliver measurable impact for customers, investors, employees, and communities. Together, they unpack why employee engagement is a business metric, not a feel-good initiative, why leaders must model the behaviors they expect from others, and how sustainable performance lives in the tension between people and results.
This conversation reframes HR, leadership, and wellbeing through one powerful truth: without success in the marketplace, there is no workplace.






